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Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Sep 25th, 2012 @ 6:54pm
by red720
I'm fairly new to comics having only read what I guess would be considered classics in the past, but I've been picking up the New 52 collected editions as they come out. I'm trying to decide what to do about the zero issues, the omnibus is coming out in December, but I'm worried that such a thick book will make it difficult to see the two page panels as I find that is a problem in just the regular hard covers. Should I pick up the single issues or am I worrying about nothing?

Also is a list anywhere that says which 0s are save to read after only having read the first collected volumes to avoid spoilers? Or am I better off just keeping these until I've read the second volumes, bringing me up to around issue 12?

Not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but I'm new here and can't create topics yet.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Sep 26th, 2012 @ 3:10pm
by Master Higgins
The #0 issues pretty much stand alone, so I think you'd be fine to read them at pretty much any time. Some, like Resurrection Man, is actually the last issue of the series, so those you'd want to wait until you get to the end. Others, like Talon, is the first issue of a new series. If you're picking up all the collected editions of the books you're following, I assume the #0 will be in them in the proper release order.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Sep 26th, 2012 @ 3:21pm
by kenzo
A lot of the #0s I read were not standalone at all (like Green Lantern), but most of them are designed in a way that they could be good jumping on points for people unfamiliar with the titles.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Sep 28th, 2012 @ 2:26am
by kenzo
Artist/writer mixups have to be the most infuriating part of white comics. It's nice when someone new comes in and mixes things up once and a while. But moving the talent away from a great comic after only a year? That's no good. I fear for what Red Hood will turn into.

That said, Superman #0 was BAD-ASS.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 1st, 2012 @ 5:49am
by LiQuid
:lol:

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Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 1st, 2012 @ 10:53pm
by Roadie Brock
LiQuid wrote::lol:

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I saw the Bleeding Cool article on this and I had to laugh at some of the responses too.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 12th, 2012 @ 10:11pm
by kenzo
New issue of Batman (#13) was awesome. Everything that that the stupid Owls bullshit wasn't/lacked. I love how in the comic too, that the Joker totally calls out Batman for being a pussy because some stupid owls get in his way.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 3:06pm
by LiQuid
Up next on the DC chopping block is fucking FRANKENSTEIN :(

...and a couple other books that literally zero people care about...

But fucking Frankenstein! :(

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 4:39pm
by Master Higgins
Yeah :(

Legion Lost is clearly the better of the 2 Legion books, but I get why it's ending.

But yeah :(

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 4:48pm
by kenzo
What else is on the chopping block? I don't give a fuck about Legion Lost. Frankenstein makes me sad, even if I'm part of the problem (I enjoyed the book, but just kinda fell off because I was reading so much other shit).

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 5:08pm
by LiQuid
Uhm, Blue Beetle was one... I forgot the fourth one.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 5:10pm
by LiQuid
Oh it was Grifter. :lol:

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 5:11pm
by LiQuid
Hey guys lookit me, I grift! I'm Grifter!

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 5:36pm
by Master Higgins
:lol: :lol: :lol:

This is the current status of the low-end:

Captain Atom 13,934 – Cancelled
G.I. Combat 14,072 – Cancelled
Voodoo 14,223 – Cancelled
Grifter 15,751 – Cancelled
Resurrection Man 16,672 – Cancelled
Blue Beetle 16,888 – Cancelled
Fury of Firestorm 17,279 – Still Going
DC Universe Presents 17,528 – Still Going
I, Vampire 17,920 – Still Going
Frankenstein 18,122 – Cancelled
Savage Hawkman 18,750 – Still Going
Legion Lost 18,786 – Cancelled
Demon Knights 20,474 – Still Going
Deathstroke 20,796 – Still Going

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 7:03pm
by kevinep3
Is deathstroke any good? I kinda wanna read it but don't know if I should spend the $$

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 15th, 2012 @ 8:13pm
by LiQuid
Master Higgins wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

This is the current status of the low-end:

Captain Atom 13,934 – Cancelled
G.I. Combat 14,072 – Cancelled
Voodoo 14,223 – Cancelled
Grifter 15,751 – Cancelled
Resurrection Man 16,672 – Cancelled
Blue Beetle 16,888 – Cancelled
Fury of Firestorm 17,279 – Still Going
DC Universe Presents 17,528 – Still Going
I, Vampire 17,920 – Still Going
Frankenstein 18,122 – Cancelled
Savage Hawkman 18,750 – Still Going
Legion Lost 18,786 – Cancelled
Demon Knights 20,474 – Still Going
Deathstroke 20,796 – Still Going

Fuck you guys. Warning sign. We need to get some sales of fucking Demon Knights and I Vampire. I'm not even kidding. Buy them.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 1:01am
by kenzo
Fuck, really? Blue Beetle got the axe? I'm a sad sad panda. He better show up with the Teen Titans or something, because I need me some Blue (although they've already more than fulfilled their brown-quota in that book with Bunker and Solstice).

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 6:24am
by Master Higgins
kevinep3 wrote:Is deathstroke any good? I kinda wanna read it but don't know if I should spend the $$


The first 8? issues were pretty fun, but then Rob Liefeld took over. I'll check it out again after he's gone.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 7:09am
by LiQuid
You guys are so racist against Liefeld. You know god damned well you all loved comics in the 90's and Liefeld WAS comics in the 90s. The dream of the 90s is alive in Liefeld.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 11:11am
by Master Higgins
As of right now, I own 2 issues by Liefeld, and that's the 2 issues of Teen Titans he drew with Gail Simone. In my entire life, I might have owned...a dozen? The last few New Mutants and the first few X-Force, but those have long since been purged. I might have kept the McFarlane Spider-Man x-over issue after I dumped all my X-Men, but I dumped all my Spidey a while after, so it would have gone, too. I never liked him, not even at the time.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 12:00pm
by LiQuid
Master Higgins wrote:As of right now, I own 2 issues by Liefeld, and that's the 2 issues of Teen Titans he drew with Gail Simone. In my entire life, I might have owned...a dozen? The last few New Mutants and the first few X-Force, but those have long since been purged. I might have kept the McFarlane Spider-Man x-over issue after I dumped all my X-Men, but I dumped all my Spidey a while after, so it would have gone, too. I never liked him, not even at the time.

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Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 1:46pm
by BagODicks
Liefeld is shit. And what's even sadder is that his work has gotten worse over the years, not better. How that guy has a job at DC is a mystery.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 2:58pm
by kenzo
I wouldn't know about the 90s. But what I do know is two words: "Hawk" and "Dove". Liefeld's shit is so bad, it wraps around twelve times back into bad. It's the fuckin' worst. Higgins takes a lot of stances that are baffling or indefensible. But hammering him over Liefeld? Wut??

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 16th, 2012 @ 3:32pm
by LiQuid
I was j/k. I wanted an excuse to post my new fav gif. To be honest though I have a pretty high tolerance for shitty art and Liefeld still bugs me a lot, though I still consider his old shit endearingly shitty when I go back and look at it. It's pretty inexcusable that he's still that bad though.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 21st, 2012 @ 6:05pm
by LiQuid
So Snyder and Jim Lee on Superman... Good for DC I guess... But fucking AmVam on hiatus, so fuck DC, they can eat my shit and die of hepatitis.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 22nd, 2012 @ 9:21pm
by red720
I'm just a trade reader so I've only read the first 6 to 8 issues of everything, but Frankenstein was one absolute favourites of the New 52. I can see how the sketchy artwork might have turned people off, but I thought it was great - the scale of the battle in the town in the first issue and the monster planet stuff was great, as was the wacky teleport/shrinkage HQ thing. I loved this comic and I'm sorry to see it go.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 31st, 2012 @ 8:17pm
by LiQuid
Just burned through a bunch of Action Comics and holy damn that book is all kinds of awesome. Really didn't like the first arc that much but the second major arc (about the forgotten Superman) and the one shot about the black Superman from the alternate dimension were totally rad stories. The deus ex landlady that wiped out Clark's death was super dumb though, but whatever, Comic Books!

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 31st, 2012 @ 9:18pm
by kenzo
LiQuid wrote:Just burned through a bunch of Action Comics and holy damn that book is all kinds of awesome. Really didn't like the first arc that much but the second major arc (about the forgotten Superman) and the one shot about the black Superman from the alternate dimension were totally rad stories. The deus ex landlady that wiped out Clark's death was super dumb though, but whatever, Comic Books!
I really don't understand what is wrong with the CC guys. Especially Brock. I don't get what's so confusing about it, or why he's so hung up on the supersuit. Action is awesome. And I would totally read a book all about Super Obama. I wasn't even mad about the landlady - I just laughed my ass off cuz it's myxplyxysticks outta left field! Loved that dude in the toon.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Oct 31st, 2012 @ 9:42pm
by LiQuid
Yeah I was sad when I found out Supbama was only a one off. Seems like the kind of thing Morrison would totally keep in his back pocket to make another appearance further into the series (especially the retarded mind engine that creates Supermans :lol: ) but isn't he leaving cape comics in a couple months?? Fucking tragedy, I think Action is one of the most downright interesting comics DC is putting out.

Re: DC reboots entire line

PostPosted: Nov 1st, 2012 @ 10:50am
by Master Higgins
Finally, people with some fucking sense around here. Every time someone drops Action cause "durp it's too confusing and goes nowhere and I don't get it", I cry a bit more.