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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby kenzo » May 6th, 2015 @ 12:23pm

CrossXhunteR wrote:Did anyone else have their theaters clap at the end of the movie.
I've had that happen before. If that happened during my watch of this movie though, I would have walked out of the movie then and there. The guy I was watching the movie with started commentating during the film and I gave 'em a sharp elbow to the side to tell the motherfucker to shut up. "Where are they now!?" Just fucking pay attention dipshit and figure it out from context on your own!
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby CrossXhunteR » May 6th, 2015 @ 12:30pm

How do people go from Captain America 1 to Captain America 2? Don't they get confused when they don't remember who Steve Rogers is from the prior movie? Who is this Tony Stark character? Why does that guy turn big and green? What is a S.H.I.E.L.D.?

I would say Ms. Marvel is a good analogue to Black Canary, not Wonder Woman.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 6th, 2015 @ 6:54pm

kenzo wrote:We've been over this, nobody knows who that is.

Of course not. Her movie hasn't come out yet. Nobody knew who Rocket Raccoon was either, until GotG came out and was awesome. Now everyone knows who he is. It'll be the same with Captain Marvel, unless it sucks.

kenzo wrote:I'm sorry, that doesn't fuckin' count. I shouldn't have to watch your garbage tie-in TV show for everything to make sense in your stand alone, flagship film.

I'd say it counts for the MCU the same way it does in the comics. If something that happens in the main story is only set up and explained in a tie-in issue that you skipped, that doesn't make it DEM. Because it's not DEM to anyone that read that issue.

And they do that to make you buy those issue. Just like they set up Theta Protocol in Agents of SHIELD to make you watch Agents of SHIELD.

kenzo wrote:Or, just maybe, the average, casual, theater-goer doesn't know the first thing about who Thanos is, and has a billion other things in their lives to keep track of instead of which generic baddie is which that keeps popping up in the background. If Thanos was a bad guy who had any ounce of originality or character to him, all this buildup could mean something. But as it is, most people don't know or care, and that insistence on continuity and 10-years-down-the-line planning is beginning to hamper these films.

Well, my mom knew Thanos as "That guy from Guardians" and she's in her 60s, so...I dunno. Maybe the people around you were just stupid.

CrossXhunteR wrote:I would say Ms. Marvel is a good analogue to Black Canary, not Wonder Woman.

We're not talking about Ms. Marvel. We're talking about Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel flies, shoots energy blasts is super strong, and semi-invulnerable.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby Vyria » May 6th, 2015 @ 11:14pm

Y'all are all dumb about all this, but I've gotta drop in here to say:

Carol Danvers is the Marvel Universe analogue to Hal Jordan
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 6th, 2015 @ 11:53pm

Vyria wrote:Carol Danvers is the Marvel Universe analogue to Hal Jordan

A lot of characters are Marvel's Hal Jordan.

Carol is the "Air force pilot that gets alien powers" analogue.

Richard Rider is the "Human joins intergalactic police force" analogue.

And Quasar is the "These Quantum Bands are basically the Green Lantern Ring" analogue.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby CrossXhunteR » May 7th, 2015 @ 4:53am

DarthEnder wrote:
kenzo wrote:We've been over this, nobody knows who that is.

Of course not. Her movie hasn't come out yet. Nobody knew who Rocket Raccoon was either, until GotG came out and was awesome. Now everyone knows who he is. It'll be the same with Captain Marvel, unless it sucks.

The thing is, people know who Wonder Woman is even without a movie. That is why I relate Ms. Marvel to Black Canary. A leader of the main team that is fairly known to the comic readers, but regular people would have no idea who she is.

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CrossXhunteR wrote:I would say Ms. Marvel is a good analogue to Black Canary, not Wonder Woman.

We're not talking about Ms. Marvel. We're talking about Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel flies, shoots energy blasts is super strong, and semi-invulnerable.

I can't tell if you are being willfully obtuse here or not. You do realize that Ms. Marvel is Captain Marvel.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby LiQuid » May 7th, 2015 @ 5:10am

It's too late for Marvel to have a Wonder Woman. WW is iconic and has a history as a part of US pop culture. Marvel has so few iconic characters as it is, Are there even any besides Spider Man?
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 7th, 2015 @ 7:18am

CrossXhunteR wrote:I can't tell if you are being willfully obtuse here or not. You do realize that Ms. Marvel is Captain Marvel.

You do realize that hasn't been the case for years now right?

This is Carol Danvers, Captain Marvel.

This is Kamala Khan, Ms. Marvel.

LiQuid wrote:Marvel has so few iconic characters as it is, Are there even any besides Spider Man?

10 years ago, I would have said just Spider-man and Hulk.

If you don't think Captain America, Iron Man, Thor etc. are iconic NOW, you're fooling yourself.

CrossXhunteR wrote:The thing is, people know who Wonder Woman is even without a movie.

Here's the question, do you think everyone knew who Wonder Woman was before she had a network television show for 4 years?

The average person wouldn't even have known who Wolverine was before the first X-Men movie came out. 6 movies later, everyone knows who Wolverine is.

The point was, Kenzo said Marvel needs a Wonder Woman. My point is, that shit doesn't just happen in a vacuum.

If Captain Marvel's movie comes out and is as popular as the rest of Marvel's movies, and she gets a trilogy, and starts showing up in Avenger's movies, then she will be Marvel's Wonder Woman.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby CrossXhunteR » May 7th, 2015 @ 7:33am

Alright, you are being willfully obtuse. No more code names. Carol Danvers is a good analogue to Dinah Lance.

Also, fuck Arrow for making me question if her name was Dinah or Laurel.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 7th, 2015 @ 8:39am

CrossXhunteR wrote:Alright, you are being willfully obtuse. No more code names. Carol Danvers is a good analogue to Dinah Lance.

In name recognition, sure.

I was originally talking about power level and importance in-universe. So when you said Ms. Marvel was comparable to Black Canary, I assumed you couldn't possibly be talking about Carol Danvers, who's like Superman-lite. As opposed to Black Canary, who does martial arts and can Fus Ro Dah.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby BeowolfSchaefer » May 12th, 2015 @ 8:32am

Saw this Friday. It was ok. Definitely not as good as the first. the plot was kind of all over the place. I've read that an earlier cut was like 3.5 hours and that makes sense because it seems like a lot was cut out. The movie is just too damn crammed with stuff. I didn't particularly dislike any scenes specifically but I felt like it should have concentrated more on Ultron and left some of the other stuff out. I get that this one is more of a setup than a culmination like the first one but I feel like we're finally starting to see this series/universe crack under its own weight a bit. Fortunately we have a bunch more standalone movies to get through before we see another avengers movie so maybe they can pull things together a little more for Civil War. I'm also curious to see if they do a directors cut or something for this one. That might make some of the more confusing bits make a little more sense.

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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby kenzo » May 12th, 2015 @ 12:55pm

BeowolfSchaefer wrote:The movie is just too damn crammed with stuff.
Coincidentally, that was something I appreciated versus the first Avengers film, which I felt was threadbare on plot and action.

BeowolfSchaefer wrote:I'm also curious to see if they do a directors cut or something for this one.
Pls no. The movie was already insufferably long. I wouldn't want it even longer and filled with more nonsense and meaningless talky-talky-times.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby BeowolfSchaefer » May 12th, 2015 @ 1:19pm

kenzo wrote:
BeowolfSchaefer wrote:I'm also curious to see if they do a directors cut or something for this one.
Pls no. The movie was already insufferably long. I wouldn't want it even longer and filled with more nonsense and meaningless talky-talky-times.


Nobody is gonna force you to watch it. I would like to see what else was there. I imagine I would only watch it that way once but I'd still like to see it. For instance I hear there was a Loki appearance in the Thor goes to the moon pool part that would have been nice to see.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby GiantAsianMan » May 12th, 2015 @ 3:29pm

kenzo wrote:
BeowolfSchaefer wrote:I'm also curious to see if they do a directors cut or something for this one.
Pls no. The movie was already insufferably long. I wouldn't want it even longer and filled with more nonsense and meaningless talky-talky-times.

Whedon's first cut of the movie was apparently 3.5 hours long, so yeah, there's a director's cut out there. I doubt the entire hour of cut material will make it's way to the DVD release, but you can probably bet at least half of it will.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby BeowolfSchaefer » May 12th, 2015 @ 3:56pm

Yeah that's what I have heard as well. Just to be clear here, I don't think that cut will be better. The movie is too long as it is and there's just too much stuff but as the theatrical release stands a lot of the elements in there just don't make sense or are not fleshed out well so I'm interested to see that once at least.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 12th, 2015 @ 8:55pm

kenzo wrote:Pls no. The movie was already insufferably long. I wouldn't want it even longer and filled with more nonsense and meaningless talky-talky-times.

It's fortunate then that, should such a cut appear, there will be nobody pointing a gun at you forcing you to watch said version.

BeowolfSchaefer wrote:I imagine I would only watch it that way once but I'd still like to see it.
Not me. I only ever watch the Special Editions of the Lord of the Rings movies now. I imagine this would be the same.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby kenzo » May 12th, 2015 @ 9:08pm

DarthEnder wrote:It's fortunate then that, should such a cut appear, there will be nobody pointing a gun at you forcing you to watch said version.
Pointing a gun? No, you're probably right. Pointing societal, friendly, and familial obligations? That's another story. It's like none of you all had to watch something you didn't want to because a friend/family member/significant other roped them into it. :lol:
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby LiQuid » May 12th, 2015 @ 10:09pm

I literally never have. Grow a pair of nuts you fucking lady.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby DarthEnder » May 13th, 2015 @ 12:12am

kenzo wrote:a friend/family member/significant other
LiQuid wrote:I literally never have.

Of these things, LiQuid has none.
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Re: The Avengers: Age of Ultron

Postby LiQuid » May 13th, 2015 @ 2:39am

I actually don't. Thank you for reminding me.
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