Had to log in here because I don't want to enter the Spoiler Channel in Discord to write up a comprehensive thing about BvS.
Movie is OK. Has some pretty stellar action, as you might expect, and some good touches here or there but it really isn't THE NEXT LEVEL. I always considered Man of Steel- Batman Begins tier. Not because I hate BB but because I thought it was a good set up and it got me ready for THE NEXT LEVEL. We got it for BB and that was The Dark Knight. Probably still my all time favorite superhero flix. This isn't TDK for Man of Steel. I recommend you watch it if you want to see some pretty larger than life characters doing some entertaining stuff, but if you're not into the spectacle then maybe skip it or wait for streaming/on demand, because pacing and plot has issues.
This movie is more enjoyable than Man of Steel. Much more humor and playfulness through out. Slightly less self serious. That's not to say that it's bright and sunny. It has the Snyder look and much of the humor is dark. None of the humor is quippy our awkward stammering meant to be charming. If you can't tell I'm trying to say it doesn't attempt to emulate the Marvel brand of humor. Perry White(still played by Larry Fish) is kind of like a realistic version of J. Jonah Jameson. He yells, tears into his employees, and shoots them down with sarcastic and condescending comments. That shit was funny and entertaining. In Man of Steel he was kinda just a pragmatic guy, in this movie they used him to inject a little more energy into the scenes.
Almost all the cast is used very well. Some have tiny rolls so whatever, they don't count. The big question marks were Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lex. They all good. Won't say any of them steal the show because I've heard people say Gal steals it and I've also heard she ruins the movie. That kinda talk is counter productive at this point. She was good and I want to see her more.
That last point leads me to my last point before I spoiler tag some stuff. The point isn't about the movie but about the reviews. You cannot convince me that these reviewers are not cowards and are only doing this because they know critical/public support is not with Zack Snyder or Man of Steel. The level of hyperbolic nonsense would be hilarious if it wasn't grossly bias. Not bias in terms on Marvel and DC but bias in terms of safe targets or not. Half the shit people say about this movie applies to most Marvel movies, imo. The shit Tony Stark does in the first Iron Man is down right scary and offensive(landing out of the blue and executing terrorist and then flying away). Extremely politically charged as well. That movie gets to put fun music to it and draw hero shots out of it. BvS makes it a plot point and a serious issue and yet somehow BvS is the damaging, fascist, wanton male power fantasies? Well it is, but so is nearly all of comic books. It's like people only dare put on their thinking cap when it comes to MoS or BvS. Any Marvel movie is just good fun apparently, and if anybody tries to draw out the obvious and gross political undertones of those movies they're an SJW or something. Most of these critics don't want that fight; but with BvS the fight is fixed, the fighter is taking a fall in the third round, they're ready to rumble. The only reaction you could possibly have to the stream of hyperbolic reviews was the stream of OOHHHH! reaction gifs. Fat black kid mouth agape rocking back and forth, rap battle victory, Pinocchio face down in shallow water, and so many more. All of them spot on and appropriate for the vitriolic reviews this movie got. I'm only bitter about it because I prefer it when people are honest all the time, not just when it's easy.
Alright, spent way too much on reviews and shit. Some spoilies and question I have:
Meta Human file was pretty cool but kind of a lazy way to introduce extended universe. Batman has his work cut out for him, literally.
They did a Batman Superman fight right. A lot of preparations and booby traps.
Barely caught what The Flash was saying. He said A LOT. I think he said Lois is the key. Would make sense after the dream sequence.
Speaking of which, pretty cool. Funny how Batman using guns criticism was all nightmare stuff.
Bats definitely kills fools. But only a few direct kills. I'm so over people freaking out over Bats killing. I only care if it's a direct part of the plot, like it was in TDK.
Doomsday was ok as a huge target. Really tough, did a good job of making all three of them necessary to stop him. Did yaw catch the stupid comment Anderson Cooper made about the work day being over so the City is abandoned? Literally no one in this city because it's past 5PM. Time to blow it up. People wanted stupid comments like that in MoS but that movie was too good for it. Gods fight let the peeps die.
I didn't get/catch what Luther said to Batman in the cell, in the end. Did he basically say he was working for Darkseid? Honestly missed all of it. Pls explain.
Much like Lois and Clark making out at the end of MoS was a little to soon, the scene in BvS when Bruce and Clark are making out in is a little too soon. Naw I wish, but I'm referring to him saying, "I'm a friend of your sons." and him saying at the end that he failed him and shit like that. I'm ok with Batman coming around to Supes before the end of the movie but I felt like he was totally in love with him by the end of it.
Supes "dying" was ok I guess. If you have Doomsday and not have him kill Supes then you'll have to bring him back to kill Supes. Might as well get it over with now.
"The world doesn't make sense unless you force it to." I'm pretty sure is a direct line from The Dark Knight Returns. Supes getting shriveled up by the nuke is def from TDKR. Batman reaching through the wall and grabbing the guy's machine gun and using it on the other guy is also right out of TDKR. I'm pretty sure "I'll kill her", "I believe you." is also from that very same scene if not another one. That's all I caught, besides the obvious stuff from the trailer. I wonder how much more Frank Miller shit Zack jerked off into this movie.