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The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Rydog » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 12:58am

Ray Barnholt and Justin Haywald sit in for this week's episode to talk about a lot of old stuff, since we don't like things that are different.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby LiQuid » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 1:03am

Cool. Was just thinking about how bored I was.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby LiQuid » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 1:04am

Guh, sausage fest! You guys couldn't get ONE lady on there?
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby kenzo » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 1:09am

Rydog wrote:Ray Barnholt and Justin Haywald sit in for this week's episode to talk about a lot of old stuff, since we don't like things that are different.

omg omg omg omg
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby TVs Mr Neil » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:04am

Hey Ryan,

I heard your discussion about Cowboys And Aliens after that awesome email I sent to you about your Mario and Zelda discussion. I thought about sending another submission to your mailbag, but I figured I might as well just post on the forum. So here we go.

Everything that was said on your show about Cowboys & Aliens is true. That book is such a piece of shit. Comic shops were paid to buy stock of the book, and it was practically given away for free so as to inflate the sales numbers.

I'm actually a community member over at Drunkduck.com, a webcomic website which was purchased back in 2006 by Scott Rosenberg, creator of the Cowboys And Aliens series, specifically to market the property. This is also the guy who made Men In Black, by the way.

There's a preview of the comic hosted on the site. You get five pages and a link to Wowio to buy a digital version of the book. Right now, the Drunk Duck main page is littered with ads for it. You get the full novel free with a subscription to Maxim, another book that nobody with any self respect reads. Nobody on the site gives a shit about it. It's practically a running gag. And of course, all of the ads have that same image of the cowboy on the horse, shooting at a UFO.

In fact, I don't know anyone who even has a copy, let alone knows that it was even a comic. It's an absolute joke. This property is such a con job. I can't believe they're actually making the movie with Harrison Ford involved. I've never seen so much buzz generated by so little.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby KindGalaxy » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:15am

LiQuid wrote:Guh, sausage fest! You guys couldn't get ONE lady on there?


If you ever saw Justin Haywald in the men's room you'd know this is more a case of Three Sausages and One Salami. If ya know what' I'm sayin'
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby TVs Mr Neil » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:34am

After a while, it was getting hard to tell who was talking. If you get a room full of guys, they all start sounding alike.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby KindGalaxy » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:40am

TVs Mr Neil wrote:After a while, it was getting hard to tell who was talking. If you get a room full of guys, they all start sounding alike.


Heyyy new guy, introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself Thread, stick around.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby IRL_Troll » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:43am

KindGalaxy wrote:
TVs Mr Neil wrote:After a while, it was getting hard to tell who was talking. If you get a room full of guys, they all start sounding alike.


Heyyy new guy, introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself Thread, stick around.


And don't forget to speak in nazi puns
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby KindGalaxy » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 4:46am

IRL_Troll wrote:
KindGalaxy wrote:
TVs Mr Neil wrote:After a while, it was getting hard to tell who was talking. If you get a room full of guys, they all start sounding alike.


Heyyy new guy, introduce yourself in the Introduce Yourself Thread, stick around.


And don't forget to speak in nazi puns


Don't scare him! We've moved on to Soviet puns, or ways to make countries names into words, Czech it out!
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby IRL_Troll » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 5:11am

Fine, I have no Guams with that
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Guillermo_DudeL » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 5:59am

I watched the Transformers: Prime too and I was also a bit disappointed. However I have some more detailed criticism than Higgin's rant about how everything sucks.

First off the animation isn't horrible Reboot era CGI. It's actually quite good, on par with something like Jimmy Neutron, it just looks Reboot-y because of the bright color palette and the choice of art style for the character designs. The problem is that the decision to have a CGI show instead of traditional animation makes it look very life-less and devoid of any real individuality. Plus it often looks like the town they're in is deserted since you hardly see any other cars or people around.

Second, the human kids are really throwaway. I know that the human characters are always The Load but at least we used to usually got some time for us to know about them before robots happen. Here it's just three random kids who appear for a few seconds and just happen to stumble upon the Autobots. And even when we do learn their personalities they're still pretty blah; one is some sort of child genius, one is a stereotypical Japanese Genki Girl, and one is a loser teenager who wants to score chicks (yeah cause we sooooooo liked that character in the movies).

Third, the plot is handled very poorly. At the beginning we're just thrusted into a scene with the Autobots like we're supposed to already know what's happening. When we finally get some back story later on in the first episode it's only a few seconds long and it still leaves some questions unanswered like why are the Autobots and Decepticons on Earth of all places and where the hell has Megatron been?

Fourth, there seems to be an overall "generic epicness" to the show. The scale of the premise seems awfully small, as there are only a handful of Autobots to fight the Decepticons and the Decepticons seemed to be only interested in attacking around the area of this nowhere town in Navada. Plus the music is the same "generic epic music" you would find in every summer blockbuster so it certainly doesn't help.

There are still some positive points to the show. For one the voice acting is great, as it does have Peter Cullen and Frank Welker back as Optimus and Megatron again. Along them you also have Jeffry Combs (That's right, The Question!) as Ratchet, Ernie Hudson as the government bureaucrat, and Steve Blum as Starscream, who actually does a good job as a sinister yet still subserviant Starscream. I do have to note that the Soundwave voice Higgin's complained about is actually not his voice, as Soundwave in this series appears to sample other character's dialogue to communicate, which I think is a neat spin on the character's role as "Communications Officer". Although I do have to say I FUCKING HATE the stupid fart noises Bumblebee makes instead of actual voice (they should have brought back Johnny Young Bosch from War For Cybertron!) I also can excuse the lame story a bit since this is actually a 5-part miniseries meant to lead up to the actually first season so I guess they want it to focus on a simple plot with lots of action to keep people interested.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Konanda » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 8:11am

The podcast table at Comics Conspiracy must be pretty duded up now. Anyway pumped to hear Ray Barnholt.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby IRL_Troll » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 9:53am

Hmm, this sucks. I want to make sweet love to Ko and I want KG to have my children....where does that leave Ray Barnholt though? Can I turn this love triangle into a love square?
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Raine » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 10:14am

Goddamn it Haywald, when you said "Peggle 3" it sent me on a mad dash to my computer desk to check this, and then turns out you meant "Bejewled 3". Fuck you Haywald, fuck you. It's like you gave me a winning lottery ticket for 100 million dollars only to say "Ha ha! Fooled you, it's a fake!"
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Mr_eX » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 10:23am

The street fighter fightpad works great for pac-man

The best Zelda game is Darksiders

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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby jinpei05 » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 11:00am

G.I. Joe Renegades is definitely the better of the new HUB shows.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Lord-Audie » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 11:32am

I like zelda 2 because is so unzelda like.

Every Zelda since ALTTP has been the same.

Except some of the GB ones.. but i haven't played those.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Raine » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 11:37am

Talk about Battle Damaged Batman made me remember what I got for Christmas one year:

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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Cris » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 11:44am

I want a new Super Smash Brothers game that's as good as Melée.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Cris » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 11:44am

Majora's Mask is great Ryan is wrong
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Mr_eX » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 12:08pm

Ratchet and Clank > Mario
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby kenzo » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 2:37pm

Mr_eX wrote:The best Zelda game is Darksiders
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would drug you and light you on fire.

Mr_eX wrote:Ratchet and Clank > Mario
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would turn off your gravity and blind you.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby jinpei05 » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 2:45pm

kenzo wrote:
Mr_eX wrote:The best Zelda game is Darksiders
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would drug you and light you on fire.

Mr_eX wrote:Ratchet and Clank > Mario
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would turn off your gravity and blind you.


Ditto. :lol:
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Mr_eX » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 2:49pm

kenzo wrote:
Mr_eX wrote:The best Zelda game is Darksiders
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would drug you and light you on fire.

Mr_eX wrote:Ratchet and Clank > Mario
If we were playing Team Fortress right now, I would turn off your gravity and blind you.


If we were playing Team Fortress right now and you did those things to me I'd do them to everyone but you as revenge.

I really do like Darksiders more than any Zelda and Ratchet and Clank(at least the PS3 ones) more than any Mario.

Also, Super Mario World is the best 2D Mario.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby kenzo » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 2:54pm

Mr_eX wrote:If we were playing Team Fortress right now and you did those things to me I'd do them to everyone but you as revenge.
That would be fair. I would think twice about doing those things to you again. :lol:

Mr_eX wrote:I really do like Darksiders more than any Zelda and Ratchet and Clank(at least the PS3 ones) more than any Mario.
Darksiders is butt. Wind Waker is a better 3D game; LttP and Link's Awakening are by far the two best Zelda titles ever. I can understand the Ratchet remark a little more since it takes 3D platforming and does something new with it (unlike Darksiders which couldn't be original to save it's mother from being repeatedly raped and murdered).
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Mr_eX » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 3:02pm

Darksiders is Zelda without all the boring stuff, I don't care that it isn't original. People make such a big deal about innovation but they seem to forget that execution is more important.

I don't see you complaining about 3D Dot Game Heroes when it does the same thing Darksiders does but to the 2D Zeldas instead of the 3D ones.

Ratchet and Clank is my favorite platforming franchise ever right now but I haven't played the Sly Cooper games yet so maybe that will change.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby TVs Mr Neil » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 3:04pm

Cris wrote:Majora's Mask is great Ryan is wrong
I appreciate that they did something different in that game. Zelda gets slammed for being the same game over and over.

In fact, getting different abilities freshened it up. I really liked getting the Goron mask, because then I could just plow around the world map and get whatever replenishments I need simply by mowing down the grass.

But there were certain oddities in that game that seemed broken to me. For example, there's that trio of dodongos on the overworld map. Once you're on Epona, you can just trample them to death and get major rewards without any risk.

Also, the boss battles were infuriating. I hate those boss battles. Worst of the entire series.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby Mr_eX » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 3:07pm

TVs Mr Neil wrote:Hey Ryan,

I heard your discussion about Cowboys And Aliens after that awesome email I sent to you about your Mario and Zelda discussion. I thought about sending another submission to your mailbag, but I figured I might as well just post on the forum. So here we go.

Everything that was said on your show about Cowboys & Aliens is true. That book is such a piece of shit. Comic shops were paid to buy stock of the book, and it was practically given away for free so as to inflate the sales numbers.

I'm actually a community member over at Drunkduck.com, a webcomic website which was purchased back in 2006 by Scott Rosenberg, creator of the Cowboys And Aliens series, specifically to market the property. This is also the guy who made Men In Black, by the way.

There's a preview of the comic hosted on the site. You get five pages and a link to Wowio to buy a digital version of the book. Right now, the Drunk Duck main page is littered with ads for it. You get the full novel free with a subscription to Maxim, another book that nobody with any self respect reads. Nobody on the site gives a shit about it. It's practically a running gag. And of course, all of the ads have that same image of the cowboy on the horse, shooting at a UFO.

In fact, I don't know anyone who even has a copy, let alone knows that it was even a comic. It's an absolute joke. This property is such a con job. I can't believe they're actually making the movie with Harrison Ford involved. I've never seen so much buzz generated by so little.



I don't care how the movie got made, it looks entertaining.
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Re: The Geekbox: Episode 94

Postby kenzo » Dec 2nd, 2010 @ 3:26pm

Mr_eX wrote:Darksiders is Zelda without all the boring stuff, I don't care that it isn't original. People make such a big deal about innovation but they seem to forget that execution is more important.

I don't see you complaining about 3D Dot Game Heroes when it does the same thing Darksiders does but to the 2D Zeldas instead of the 3D ones.
I haven't played 3D Dot Game Heroes, and haven't seen enough of the game to formulate a valid opinion yet. However, it did arrive in the mail today and I'm going to be unpacking it and playing it shortly. I don't necessarily mind it when games have zero story and rid the player of all motivation beyond continuing to play the game for the sake of the fun mechanics - that's all games like LBP are. But I do mind when the story in a game is retarded. And not the good kind of retarded where it knows that it's stupid and revels in it like Metal Gear. I'm talking psychic-visions-of-Cortana-Halo 3-retarded. Darksiders' story was that retarded.

Mr_eX wrote:Ratchet and Clank is my favorite platforming franchise ever right now but I haven't played the Sly Cooper games yet so maybe that will change.
I played through Tools of Destruction and Quest for Booty, but didn't get Crack in Time yet because I felt burned out on the formula when it first came out. Am I missing out?
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