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The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby Master Higgins » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 12:26am

Our epic 2-hour long DC Comics New 52 #1 discussion is up.

And it's only the first half.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby LiQuid » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 12:53am

Holy fuck, must listen ASAP!
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby kenzo » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 1:08am

Master Higgins wrote:And it's only the first half.

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby Roadie Brock » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 1:29am

Long, but fun episode. Can't wait to do the rest of the 52 next week. And we had guests. :P
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby zvex » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 5:42am

Great review, can't wait for the second half. And I agree, I was amazed at how many of The New 52 got me really excited. The ones I expected to be good were solid, the ones I thought I'd hate were great surprises. Definitely the most exciting time for me since I started reading comic books
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby Lombaszko » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 7:36am

Great discussion and I really liked Toby and Charlie's input. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sort of liked the Mr. Terrific book.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby LiQuid » Oct 5th, 2011 @ 11:06am

Animal Man preview image, this already sounds great.

Can't wait for issue 2!!!
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby bitblockader » Oct 6th, 2011 @ 12:12pm

This ep was flippin sweet
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby LiQuid » Oct 6th, 2011 @ 12:18pm

Yeah, really good to hear new voices on the podcast. Really wish there was more vocal dissent on some of the titles though aside from just Hawk and Dove. Sure none of the books was like super duper shitty (even H&D was stupid fun) but there's so much DC love fest going on that needs some counter balance. This show basically needs a dedicated troll or a foil to Higgins' ability to enjoy any god damned thing under the sun. Brock can only hate so much.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby kenzo » Oct 6th, 2011 @ 6:38pm

I love Superman as a character, but his stories are all so boring. To me, I enjoy him much more as this force of nature that exists in other characters' stories and shows up from time to time fucking things up/influence things. For example, I love how he's used in Young Justice as this enigmatic man who is kind of in the background and exists as a shadow constantly being cast over Superboy. He shows up once and a while and it's like, "Oh dang! There's Supes doing super-things!" and then you see Superboy get all frustrated at that and it's like, "Oh snap, intrigue!"

Also, LOL - I appreciate the effort on the non-white comics. I personally hate Bakuman, but I can appreciate why someone would like it. To lots of huge comic nuts, it's probably interesting to see a comic that's all about how to make comics. But I really don't care about that. Also, the "love" story is absolutely lawlful (I like you, and you like me, and we both have a mutual understanding of that - but let's waste our entire high school period pining for each other and put off actually dating until we both achieve our respective career-dreams for really no good reason other than the fact that we're both shy to the point of being incapable of functioning normally in society).

Like Higgins said, it's like a sports-manga, and those aren't really popular over here for a good reason. Sports-manga (and Bakuman) exist to be very technical "how to" manuals as much as anything else. In a place like Japan where a lot of these sports like Basketball weren't really that popular until mangas about them came along, the reading audience needs these to be "how to" manuals as much as anything else. But to a guy like me, I know the rules of Basketball; I grew up playing Tennis; I watched football as a toddler. I don't need to read a comic where entire issues are dedicated to explaining one basic and simple premise or rule. There's a relatively obscure manga about the 92-93 Phoenix Suns featuring Charles Barkley about his championship aspirations, and it's actually a pretty interesting manga - except it spends so much time explaining some basic concepts of basketball (like what a "block" or a "rebound" is) and who some of the basic characters are (nobody in America needs to have a mini-biography of Michael Jordan explained to them to understand who he is) that it completely distracts from the story at hand.

So that's one of the pitfalls of manga to me. That and, Bakuman/most sports-manga fall into the predictable and nauseating cycle of typical "shounen" stereotypes of "I wanna be the very best" which is pretty intellectually lazy and boring. It's great for kids and young teens (I loved me some DBZ and Pokemon back in the day), but I've grown completely out of it since then.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby LiQuid » Oct 6th, 2011 @ 7:35pm

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby jinpei05 » Oct 7th, 2011 @ 7:25am

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby Fade2Black » Oct 8th, 2011 @ 4:27pm

Charlie!
Toby!


Good to hear both of your familiar voices being added to the mix.
Charlie is probably a bigger Green Lantern fan than Ryan (if that's even possible).

Enjoyed the reviews. Having listened to another podcasts' synopses of DC's reboot, Conspiracy's reviews seem to be very much in-line with what others are saying.

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 26

Postby SerpentineZERO » Oct 10th, 2011 @ 11:12pm

Good discussion this week. Liked hearing new voices on the podcast, are they ever going to be on a normal episode maybe?
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