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The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Master Higgins » Aug 20th, 2012 @ 11:04pm

New episode is up. Join us saying goodbye to long-time friend and employee, Sam Lujan, as well as other comic-related goings-on.

Direct link: http://traffic.libsyn.com/comicconspira ... _Ep071.mp3
iTunes link: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the- ... d429201733
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Website link: http://www.comicsconspiracy.biz/
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Olympia » Aug 20th, 2012 @ 11:40pm

Gambit: Jerome Opena with Dean White's colors for art, Ed Brubaker for writing. easy. Brubaker could write a decent heist comic without it being hamfisted or un-elegant.

I'm almost tempted to buy Wolverine MAX because Connor Williumsen is fucking amazing
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby kenzo » Aug 20th, 2012 @ 11:42pm

I came really close to buying that Hyrule Historia book in Japanese a few weeks back and decided against it at the last second (picked up a bitchin' Peace Walker and 999 book instead) because I figured it would either get localized or crazy fans would end up translating it. Either way though, it's a gorgeous book - I hope Dark Horse does the book a solid and prints it on the same high quality paper stock and as the same book dimensions that the Japanese edition came in. Also, $35 is pretty damned cheap when you consider that the price of importing this thing in moon-language is guaranteed to be >$60. Also also, I figured this would be something for the Geekbox, not the CC. I'm sure Brock moans and groans about this one. :P
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Olympia » Aug 20th, 2012 @ 11:51pm

uh

daniel way is not cool

and fucking ale garza is on the x-force now? could they get a more pedestrian artist?

I can't see how image or comicspro wanted to give the variant to stores who "help the comics industry" if they gave copies to larry's comics
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby kenzo » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 12:16am

Hearing Toby, Brock, and Higgins argue about TMNT games is almost adorable. Of course Brock isn't thinking about TMNT (1989) for the NES. Who would possibly look back on that game fondly?

But Toby and Higgins, you're both probably wrong by assuming he's talking about TMNT: Turtles in Time (1992) for the SNES, since he specifically said NES.

What he's probably talking about is either TMNT II: The Arcade Game (1990) or TMNT III: The Manhattan Project (1992).
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Olympia » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 12:33am

can I see the print?
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Toby » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 11:58am

Brock must have meant the second one then. To my credit I did bring up 2 and 3, but since I never had a NES, I didn't know how they looked like. Just knew they existed. (1st one my neighbor had, and I bought on the Wii Virtual Console - big mistake). And yes trying to figure out what Brock is saying at times is a mystery, but then the same can be said of myself.

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby bitblockader » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 12:24pm

I didn't catch what all Higgins was flapping his gums about for Hyrule Historia - but whatevs count me in, and I'll get a payment to you as soon as you guys figure things out.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby kenzo » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 1:24pm

The Hyrule Historia is NOT a comic, and it is not an attempt to organize the history of the Zelda franchise (though it does include a timeline and routinely compares games to each other). What it is, is an artbook. And it's common for Japanese artbooks to have all kinds of supplementary info in it including character bios, design notes/docs, interviews, timelines, storyboards, etc. Some are so detailed that they're basically series/lore bibles (like the SaGa Frontier 2 Perfect Works I own).
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Konanda » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 5:57pm

kenzo wrote:The Hyrule Historia is NOT a comic, and it is not an attempt to organize the history of the Zelda franchise (though it does include a timeline and routinely compares games to each other). What it is, is an artbook. And it's common for Japanese artbooks to have all kinds of supplementary info in it including character bios, design notes/docs, interviews, timelines, storyboards, etc. Some are so detailed that they're basically series/lore bibles (like the SaGa Frontier 2 Perfect Works I own).


Is there any publisher that has more companion books than Square Enix's Ultimania stuff? Although I suppose it makes sense for them seeing as they are also a book/magazine publisher in Japan.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby kenzo » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 6:45pm

Konanda wrote:Is there any publisher that has more companion books than Square Enix's Ultimania stuff? Although I suppose it makes sense for them seeing as they are also a book/magazine publisher in Japan.
Back in the days of Squaresoft, they used to call them "Perfect Works". Pretty much everyone makes artbooks. Some are obviously more extensive than others. Capcom books can be just as extensive as Square ones and select ones are pretty readily available over here (all the Udon stuff). I just bought a Peace Walker (Konami) and a 999 (Aksys) book and they're both glorious. These kinds of artbooks are super common for popular anime shows too (I have some Eva books hidden in some closet).
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Roadie Brock » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 9:59pm

kenzo wrote:Hearing Toby, Brock, and Higgins argue about TMNT games is almost adorable. Of course Brock isn't thinking about TMNT (1989) for the NES. Who would possibly look back on that game fondly?

But Toby and Higgins, you're both probably wrong by assuming he's talking about TMNT: Turtles in Time (1992) for the SNES, since he specifically said NES.

What he's probably talking about is either TMNT II: The Arcade Game (1990) or TMNT III: The Manhattan Project (1992).


I think you are right with it being TMNT 2 and three, but that was so long ago I have vague memories of all those TMNT games.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Roadie Brock » Aug 21st, 2012 @ 10:01pm

Olympia wrote:Gambit: Jerome Opena with Dean White's colors for art, Ed Brubaker for writing. easy. Brubaker could write a decent heist comic without it being hamfisted or un-elegant.


Olympia...Go work for Marvel! This creative team would be killer.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby LiQuid » Aug 23rd, 2012 @ 2:25pm

Oh god, the Ninja Turtle game discussion! Hearing non-gamers talk about video games is super hilarious.

kenzo wrote:Hearing Toby, Brock, and Higgins argue about TMNT games is almost adorable. Of course Brock isn't thinking about TMNT (1989) for the NES. Who would possibly look back on that game fondly?

1. Me. It's a "bad" game and super hard but I beat it because we were all hardcore back in the day. Also it was a Ninja Turtle game so there was literally no way it could be bad (this is probably how a lot of Batman fans feel about Nolan's shitty, crapped out movies).

Oh, also 2. Nintendo Power, who gave it their Game of the Year award in 1989

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby LiQuid » Aug 23rd, 2012 @ 3:31pm

Toby, I respect you so damn much for recognizing the genius and legacy of Tony Scott. I watch a LOT of damned movies and it's STAGGERING how many modern filmmakers have completely lost sight of the art of making entertaining movies. Ridley has made what I consider masterpieces with Alien and Blade Runner because they tell complex stories with an unparalleled atmosphere but Ridley couldn't sell his soul to the devil for the ability to make a movie as fun to watch as Pelham 123. I've been trying to put together a short list of Tony's flicks to marathon (a friend and I like to do tribute marathons when a well known actor or director dies, like Swayze and John Hughes) and going through his list there are almost NO films that I wouldn't want to watch again. You think I want to sit through fucking Gladiator again? Not on your fucking life, motherfucker. But I'll sit down for two and a half hours and watch Denzel fuck up a few dozen Mexicans ANY day of the week.

I think this old standby pretty much says it all:

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Toby » Aug 23rd, 2012 @ 5:45pm

Thanks Liquid! And I very much agree, the art of making a solid fun action movie has gone fairly scarce in Hollywood these days. Tony is one of those filmmakers, that I followed in my younger days, without knowing that I did - only to realize later in life that they all came from the same man. I always hoped to one day to have a conversation with this dude, or just to see him at his craft. Me and my filmmaking buddy talk about Tony (and Ridley) a lot. In fact we even talked about him as we drove home from filming the Comedy Button last Sunday, just to come home to find the news of his passing.

I think this short film he did for BMW a couple years ago, showcases his genius!

Starring Clive Owen, James Brown, and Gary Oldman. (Not to mention some awesome cameos!)

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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Toby » Aug 23rd, 2012 @ 5:50pm

Did you have this flick as part of your Swayze marathon?



BTW - I wished John Hughes was still around too, I just recently rewatched all his movies. (And caught up on the ones I somehow missed over the years.)
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Toby » Aug 23rd, 2012 @ 5:53pm

Also I wanna say thanks to Trevor (F2B) for showing me how to share youtube vids on the forums, this shit is confusing as hell to me!
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby bitblockader » Aug 25th, 2012 @ 5:10am

You guys should do a New 52 - 52 weeks later report card episode.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Master Higgins » Aug 25th, 2012 @ 9:28am

bitblockader wrote:You guys should do a New 52 - 52 weeks later report card episode.


We're gonna do it in 2 weeks.
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Re: The Comic Conspiracy: Episode 71

Postby Quillon » Aug 28th, 2012 @ 4:39pm

For anyone curious about I.N.J. Culbard who's drawing The New Deadwardians, here's his web page. It looks like he's drawn some indy graphic novels (mostly adaptations of old adventure novels).
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